<bGSOUND src="http://home.cablelynx.com/~crazyivan/.mid">
Make your own free website on Tripod.com


Pages: (6) « First ... 4 5 [6]  ( Go to first unread post )

 Religion in SciFi, spinoff from Kerra's B5 philosophy topic
Dennis10458
Posted: Jul 31 2008, 05:26 PM
Report Post


Virtual Ninja


Group: Members
Posts: 148
Member No.: 23
Joined: 11-December 07




When I was a child, I thought as a child, spoke as a child, acted as a child . . .

In the 1990's I watched Voyager and remember seeing Nothing Human which aired recently. I bought into B'ellana's desire to not accept the help of the Cardasian "Doctor" hologram.

But last year, I spent 45 days in the hospital with my Father, who went in 4 different times for that total of days.

The first time, he nearly died.

The next time I saw Nothing Human, I realized that I was not Lt. Torres. If the information that would help Daddy live had come from Joseph Megele' himself, I would not have cared. I'm serious. I would have wanted it used.

What can I say? Dennis10458 might not be ready to wear that Starfleet uniform.
Mini Profile
Top
Kerra
Posted: Jul 31 2008, 08:15 PM
Report Post


Tis the Season . . .


Group: Moderators
Posts: 2,237
Member No.: 10
Joined: 10-June 07



QUOTE (Dennis10458 @ Jul 31 2008, 04:26 PM)

When I was a child, I thought as a child, spoke as a child, acted as a child . . .

In the 1990's I watched Voyager and remember seeing Nothing Human which aired recently. I bought into B'ellana's desire to not accept the help of the Cardasian "Doctor" hologram.

But last year, I spent 45 days in the hospital with my Father, who went in 4 different times for that total of days.

The first time, he nearly died.

The next time I saw Nothing Human, I realized that I was not Lt. Torres. If the information that would help Daddy live had come from Joseph Megele' himself, I would not have cared. I'm serious. I would have wanted it used.

What can I say? Dennis10458 might not be ready to wear that Starfleet uniform.

Who can agree with anything that devil Mengele did? Literally his soul was that of a monster.

Now, if any good can come from that which he did then I believe it is our moral obligation to use it for that good, otherwise we risk reducing the pain and suffering of his victims to simple war casualties... and they were not simple war casualties.

I also remember this episode and thought that if I were in Torres' place I would want the medical knowledge of my enemy to help me survive because it would be a one-up against the enemy.


****************************************************************

As for the first episode you wrote about this evening... I am afraid I did not see it. But the sacrifice of choosing one patient over another happens constantly.

I remember when my son was poisoned. He was in critical condition, in a coma, barely alive. At that point the doctors were saying his only chance was a liver transplant, but it would have to be that of a child. I had to sign papers giving consent for the transplant, but before I signed I looked at the doctor and said, "If I sign this it means that I am hoping that someone else's child dies so that mine can live. I can't sign it." The entire medical staff stopped and looked at me. Then someone with better sense and less emotion said to me, "This is consent just in case a terrible tragedy happens and we get a liver in time. You are not asking for another child to die."

I signed the paper, but to this day, I do not think that there is much comfort in what the second person said to me.

Choices, and then forgiveness. It is very, very hard.


--------------------
user posted image
May that special wish come true.
Mini Profile
Top
Kerra
Posted: Aug 6 2008, 06:43 PM
Report Post


Tis the Season . . .


Group: Moderators
Posts: 2,237
Member No.: 10
Joined: 10-June 07



Voyager episode "Think Tank" where 7 of Nine is required as payment from an alien group in return for help in defeating bounty hunters hunting Voyager.

Though not quite a religious topic, moral issues run throughout this epiosde.

When do you encourage the young to leave the household and go out on their own?

Do you coerse people with your superior knoweldge and technology to hand over a crew member as payment for survival?

Does this sound like capitalism? Is this more like extortion? What is the moral quotient?


--------------------
user posted image
May that special wish come true.
Mini Profile
Top
monty24llr
Posted: Aug 6 2008, 07:32 PM
Report Post


Starfighter Ace


Group: Moderators
Posts: 2,282
Member No.: 4
Joined: 8-June 07



I don't think capitalism would apply as there was no financial gain through trade or barter; likewise extortion has implications of monetary gain in return for either prearranged protection or to keep information confidential. I would interpret this as blackmail; the mafioso method of coercion using the old "I did something huge for you, now you OWE me, and I'm here to collect."

I would discuss this more thoroughly, but I have to admit I don't remember all the details of this particular episode.
Mini Profile
Top
Dennis10458
Posted: Aug 7 2008, 10:56 AM
Report Post


Virtual Ninja


Group: Members
Posts: 148
Member No.: 23
Joined: 11-December 07




I suppose the item on Sagan's list that comes closest to the issues in this ep would be slavery.

Seven is viewed by the members of the think tank as a commodity to be traded for a service.

I seem to recall that Seven was "intrigued" by the possibilities presented by the opportunity to join the think tank.

Still this would be her second major shift in situation within a short period of time . . . Maybe too much even for Seven of Nine . . .
Mini Profile
Top
Dennis10458
Posted: Aug 11 2008, 01:38 PM
Report Post


Virtual Ninja


Group: Members
Posts: 148
Member No.: 23
Joined: 11-December 07




Spike TV Schedule

Barge of the Dead airs Thursday - not to be missed if you are following this topic.

Ashes to Ashes likely on the 22nd or 25th - also a must see.
Mini Profile
Top
Dennis10458
Posted: Aug 22 2008, 10:00 AM
Report Post


Virtual Ninja


Group: Members
Posts: 148
Member No.: 23
Joined: 11-December 07




Based on the SpikeTv schedule, Voyager will begin airing in the early morning hours next week, 3 nights only. Ashes to Ashes will show early Wednesday morning, I think . . .
Mini Profile
Top
Kerra
Posted: Aug 22 2008, 08:27 PM
Report Post


Tis the Season . . .


Group: Moderators
Posts: 2,237
Member No.: 10
Joined: 10-June 07



QUOTE (Dennis10458 @ Aug 22 2008, 09:00 AM)

Based on the SpikeTv schedule, Voyager will begin airing in the early morning hours next week, 3 nights only. Ashes to Ashes will show early Wednesday morning, I think . . .

Nothing but bad news for me this evening... first Atlantis is cancelled and now Voyager is being moved. No I do not have any equipment to record something at three in the morning. sad.gif

Thanks for the heads up Dennis.


--------------------
user posted image
May that special wish come true.
Mini Profile
Top
Kerra
Posted: Aug 25 2008, 09:48 PM
Report Post


Tis the Season . . .


Group: Moderators
Posts: 2,237
Member No.: 10
Joined: 10-June 07



And so you were right Dennis.... when I get home from work Voyager is no longer on. My TV enjoyment has been knocked down several pegs. ninja.gif


--------------------
user posted image
May that special wish come true.
Mini Profile
Top
« Next Oldest | The Podium | Next Newest »

Topic OptionsPages: (6) « First ... 4 5 [6] 



Hosted for free by InvisionFree (Terms of Use: Updated 7/7/05) | Powered by Invision Power Board v1.3 Final © 2003 IPS, Inc.
Page creation time: 0.1276 seconds | Archive

Free shoutbox @ ShoutMix